For rtmp, I already tried rtmpdump, it's very difficult and complicated to use in terminal is there a gui based alternative...
For mms, I already tried firefox's plugin, and some download manager, It download only junk file or stream file not full at all
and saving with vlc it work's but takes a very long time to do (I think vlc is converting file format after downloaded, can I save without converting?)
p.s. And I cannot add tags mms and rtmp because my reputation less than 300.
Thank you !
p.s.2 (Thanks Allan for edited my terrible English.) This is examples link that I got problems. removed my personal links