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  • In version 9.10 they replaced Pidgin with Empathy
  • In version 10.10 F-spot was replaced with Shotwell
  • In the next version Gnome will be replaced with Unity
  • Rhythmbox will be replaced by Banshee
  • OpenOffice will be replaced by LibreOffice.

I know I can still choose to install any of these applications.

But I think these steps shrink the development communities and the support for each of these programs. It also causes general confusion since in each version something works completely differently.

What I don't understand is, why are always young, less stable, and less mature programs being taken time after time, instead of putting effort into the current, well working programs?

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At first it was more like en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came%E2%80%A6 , but I figured it would've been a little melodramatic –  Asaf Apr 8 '11 at 7:27
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There are always specific reasons why applications are removed and new ones are added from the default installation media; these programs are of course still available via the Software Center.

9.10

Pidgin replaced Empathy

Empathy is a GNOME Application and better integrates with the whole desktop environment. Before Empathy was developed like crazy Pidgin was the de-facto standard for most distros. Only when Empathy's development boosted, they replaced it. I don't see any chances of it being replaced any soon.


10.10

F-spot was replaced with Shotwell

F-Spot development was getting stagnant and there were hardly any active maintainers (IIRC). Right now there is only one major developer AFAIK - Ruben Vermeesh

On the other hand, Shotwell is lighter and more actively developed.


11.04

Gnome Shell replaced with Unity

Just a small correction. They are not replacing GNOME, but only the traditional gnome-panel which is anyway going to be deprecated in coming days. Means you won't get able to use it for very long. Later in a year or two you will have to choose between Unity or gnome-shell

Rhythmbox replaced by Banshee

Banshee has faster development as claimed by their developers. My personal experience is that their developers are usually very passionate about the software. I have met their developers on IRC and they are more than ready to help in case of any problems.

Just a good software is not a criteria. Active upstream development, active bug squashing, regular/predictable release schedule are the requirements.

Also Banshee developers tried getting Banshee on the default installation during UDS-N at Florida. This means they are taking up marketing and propagation too. I have always found them to be one of the best people in Free Software.

OpenOffice replaced by LibreOffice

I think every distro is planning to do so. OpenOffice is still under the clutches of Oracle and LibreOffice development is faster. There is no copyright assignment in LibreOffice as against OpenOffice.

You might want to know that always Ubuntu never shipped with pure OpenOffice but with Goo-org which contains many patches which Sun was not ready to accept in OpenOffice. Goo-org was maintained by Novell primarily. The application was just branded as OpenOffice but was Goo-org


11.10

PiTiVi was dropped

Poor reception and low rating in Software Center was cited as the major reason for dropping it. Secondly, it's target userbase was very small since it is a video editing application.


12.04

Banshee replaced by Rhythmbox

Space concerns were cited for dropping Banshee which had of late had suffered some regression in quality (controversial debate).

Tomboy, gBrainy and Mono Dropped

Since Banshee was the biggest user of mono stack, it was decided to drop Mono drop the CD itself and this Tomboy was also dropped. A game named gBrainy which also uses Mono was removed.


I can understand that there are confusions, but you cannot just throw an application in default and be sure that it's development is going to be still awesome till next release. Every UDS you have a track called "Default selection track" where changes to default applications are discussed. They discuss which application's development is slowing down or getting buggier and the have to be replaced by which applications (if that is better)


My answer can have factual inaccuracies. Please point them out. I have written the answer to best of my knowledge and memory

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This is the best answer I've seen addressing this topic, it should be in the Ubuntu article in Wikipedia –  Asaf Apr 7 '11 at 19:06
    
Thanks Asaf for the kind words :) –  Manish Sinha Apr 7 '11 at 20:24
    
It's worth noting that Gnome 3 will still have gnome-panel, it's just not the default anymore. –  Brendan Long Apr 8 '11 at 0:20
    
by the way, i fail to understand why Unity is going to be the default in Desktop as well, it seems to be designed for notebooks, right? –  Asaf Apr 8 '11 at 7:21
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Not only does Ubuntu use Go-OO as its OpenOffice "distro", LibreOffice is forked from Go-OO. –  Tyler K. Apr 10 '11 at 2:33
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